The folly(?) of scratch removal


Will these factory-installed scratches kill you?

I don't know, maybe I'm an idiot, but the front of the manual talks at great length about how scratches in aluminum can lead to cracks, and cracks in the wing ribs sound like the sort of thing that could really ruin your day. It is hard to instill, they say, "the importance of proper finishing technique" in novice builders. And so I start sanding and grinding, taking those words to heart.

After 6 hours of removing scratches from wing ribs...

To: support@vansaircraft.com
From: Paul

Hi guys,
  I'm getting frustrated.  All of the ribs in my kit so far (RV-9 HS and
wing ribs) have come from the factory with lots of nicks on the
inside webs and flanges.  I don't know if they are happening during
manufacturing or shipping (nesting the ribs together seems to cause some
of them), but they are pretty deep and removing them is a pain.

  They are deep enough to feel easily with a fingernail, and most come out with
some scrubbing with 330 grit.  Some are deeper and require more drastic
measures.  The inside flanges are the worst since I can't get any sort
of power tool on them.

  My question to you is this.  The manual says to "remove all scratches,
no matter how deep", but no builder I know actually does this.  Some say
to remove anything you can feel with your fingernail and that is what I
have been doing ...  to the tune of 6 hours for one wing's worth of
ribs.  Others only smooth out the deepest gashes.  If the ribs came
"clean" from the factory I can understand your position, but when I
receive parts with so much apparent damage I've got to wonder what you
really mean by scratch removal.

The reply:

From: "Scott Risan " (scottr@vansaircraft.com)                          
To: Paul

Paul,  unless the scratch is really deep, light sanding to remove any
'high' material is sufficient.  "High' being any material that is
above the flat rib material....normally takes very little work. No
need to remove the scratch completely.  If it's really deep....say 20-
30% of the material thickness, then consider a replacement part.

van's
Well, that's nice, but I may keep on removing scratches anyway. Several A&Ps (online) and other builders (in person) have advised me to keep sanding. I wish Van's would just improve their production and/or shipping of these parts so I don't have to worry.

Some pictures:

These don't really do the scratches justice, but keep in mind that they can all be felt easily when you rub your fingernail over them. Every one of my wing and HS ribs came with many scracthes like these. The rest of my parts? Totally pristine, except for an occastional tooling mark.

Take two...

A followup email from Van's. Sounds like the manual is worded for optimal lawsuit avoidance.

just prior to this in the manual, it says that the solution to
knowing if a scratch is deep enough to be concerned about is to
simply remove ALL scratches.  In the real world,  this is not very
practical as there will be light scratches on most surfaces of the
plane by the time you're done and ready to paint.  It is a bit of a
gray area but common sense can be used in most cases...is the scratch
on an edge or a corner?....if so, spend a bit more time cleaning that
one up.  If there is a question as to whether its too deep to use the
part, call us or send us a photo and we'll help out.  Van's